Episode 240: Evil

Ain't that a lovely thing to hear yourself accused of?

The greatest has spoken pay no attention to that man behind the curtain who are you? Who are you? A very bad man. I'm a very good man good man they think deep thoughts and with no more brains than you have pay no attention to that man anybody can have a brain you're a very bad man.

I'm a very good man just a very bad wizard welcome to Very Bad Wizards. I'm Tamler Summers from the University of Houston.

Dave.

I'm back from Sardinia. Sardinia after a couple of weeks. Anything happen in this country while I was gone?

First of all, didn't you learn how to pronounce it while you were.

And.

You got to do this thing with your fingers that's most of looks like.

Some Italian character on The Simpsons. Listener can imagine. Spicy sardines.

Why?

You know, look at my photos from Sardinia.

No, nothing happened.

Not that I was paying attention.

Everything's still good.

Our legal system is you know what.

The Constitution is just winning is all I'm saying.

According to people who know, it was.

Down for a while with liberal justices in power, but now it's back.

They've issued the corrections to what the you know what.

What would the patreon tier have to be for you to start a political blog?

I have so much honor that there's no amount of money. I would literally start an only fans where I jerked off, like, once a week on camera before I did a political podcast.

Well, you were going to do that. You've been talking about it.

Well, I was going to say two birds. I wouldn't have to start doing something new.

You could talk about politics while you're jerking off.

Like Jeffrey Tubin.

Yeah, exactly. So that's not the thing, though. The Roe v. Wade. That's horrible. We can't talk about that right now. But it's awful. Obviously.

I can't tell whether we're dicks.

We're not talking about it.

Yeah, well, I don't think I have anything to add. I just don't think it's helpful for us to just say which I think I believe.

This is like horrifying.

I was really horrifying.

I was listening to a podcast that it's a guy I like or a couple of guys I like.

It's a tech thing, and they're liberals.

But he said something like, but let me also encourage you to donate to.

An abortion whatever relief fund. And I was like, no one tunes.

Into your tech podcast to hear that.

They need to donate to abortion relief funds.

Stick to tech. You're saying LeBron. But there was another kind of scandal that happened on Twitter the other day.

That's what I was paying more attention to. Do you have the tweet pulled up? This is a tweet. Rarely do I get this angry at.

Tweets, but do you have it pulled up?

Yeah, I'm about to get it up. This is Jonathan Weisberg. I don't think I know him. He's a philosophy professor at University of Toronto. I don't know that much about him and his work, but this is what he tweeted. Scorsese, Spielberg, Tarantino, they're master storytellers with the sensibilities of children. Scorsese's obsession with gangsters is 14 year old boys stuff. You can admire their talent without lauding their juvenile material. Maybe then we'd get some actual grown up movies. Oh, man.

God, even just hearing it, what do.

You think he thinks a grown up movie is? Is it like Whatever versus Kramer or something? Like like whatever he likes.

Like Love Story brian's Song.

Like Awakenings. Something like Robin Williams in a Beard movie.

In his sensitive roles, he's the look. Jonathan Weisberg, I don't know him either. He can have his own opinion.

He can tweet it, but he put it out there.

So I'm going to tell him why I hate it.

It's the kind of commentary that is bulletproof.

Because no matter what anybody says to defend why a Scorsese movie with gangsters.

Might be a good movie and in.

A mature movie and a grown up.

Movie, he would just accuse you of.

Being juvenile because you like it.

The definition of the mind of a.

14 year old as being whatever Jonathan Weisberg has grown out of is just annoying as fuck. And it strikes me as the kind of unnecessary posturing. Just say you don't like it. Why can't you just say you don't.

Like Tarantino or Scracis?

There's so many compounded things that are wrong with this. First of all, it's the kind of prissiness of it and kind of good deep misunderstanding of art that it would be divided between the juvenile 14 year old boy stuff and the grown up stuff they can talk about over a glass of wine after the viewing. So there's that. There's also the Scorsese has done way more movies that have nothing to do with gangsters than any director that Jonathan Weisberg could name. Like his movies Scorsese has done so he has like four or five movies that are primarily about gangsters at most. And he's directed like 30 films.

Yeah, I believe that even The Last Temptation of Christ, I think he said, was essentially like an immature.

What did.

He say about that? It made me think also it's possible.

This is a bit maybe if so, he trolled me spectacularly.

You were much madder about it. Even though I'm the one that tweeted about it. I was not nearly as mad as you were because there's a lot of these people out there.

Yeah, it just reminds me of Rick and Morty. When Morty says something super woke and Rick says, OOH, someone's getting late in college. That's the kind of tweet they're writing. But so what is it to have a 14 year old boy mind? Is it that there's gratuitous violence? Is it some sort of wish fulfillment? Like I was talking to you about inglorious bastards. Or Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, it's like an alternate telling where the thing happens that you really wish would happen. Like Hitler gets killed in an overdetermined fashion. Is that what is immature or 14 year oldish about it?

I think it's the violence and the larger than life characters in some of these movies. Maybe.

The kind of violence that you have in some Tarantino films, like Kill Bill, sure, it reminds me of young boys playing swords or whatever, but the kind of violence that you have in.

A scorsese gangster film is like, well.

This is like the kind of shit that people did. It's ugly and it's grown up as fuck. And does he think that it's glamorizing to think it's a good movie to shut?

Yeah, I don't get it.

But the whole notion of what a.

Grown up movie is pisses me off.

And I think maybe it's because I'm still the kind of grown up who likes animated movies. I can imagine him thinking like, oh.

When you hit twelveTH grade and you.

Want to see your movies that aren't drawn, then hit me up.

Maybe he would let Miyazaki in or something just out of pure. Like, you got to get that pussy.

Why take to Twitter to say something like that?

It's so stupid. And also Jackie Brown once upon a time in Hollywood, there are movies literally about aging. 14 year olds don't like movies about aging and the aging process and being like middle aged to late middle age, feeling like the world is the world pass you by has passed you by. That's not juvenile stuff.

What about Spielberg? I think you were saying of the three, Spielberg might be close to fitting.

The bill if I had to grant him one. I mean, the kind of obvious one to grant would be Tarantino Scorsese. It's just like he shouldn't even be talking about this. It's blasphemous. But yeah, Spielberg, it's a little bit of my personal taste. Like he is like a master craftsman.

And you take something like his love.

Of 1930s cereals that sort of brought.

The summer blockbuster into fashion in The.

Raiders of the Lost Arc and Raiders.

Exactly. That came to be what 14 year old boys love. But I think that