Episode 125: Can You Feel It?

Good man.

They think deep thoughts and with no more brains than you have. Pay no attention to that man. You're a very bad man.

I'm a very good man.

Just a very bad wizard.

Welcome to very bad wizards. I'm Tamler Summers from the University of Houston. Dave, harvey Weinstein, your boy, has taken an indefinite leave from Miramax after 20 years of sexual harassment cover ups, including Ashley Judds, alleging Weinstein asked her to watch him while he took a shower. Would you watch me while I took a shower?

There's probably some amount of money in which the answer would be yes.

No. Not money, just friendship.

I mean, I do have a Nest camera installed in your bathroom, but it's usually.

To watch me take a shit.

Exactly. The bath time is an incidental sort of fringe benefit. No, it's weird because taking a shower is not I mean, I know that you can make shower taking look sexy because certainly plenty of people have done that.

Can Harvey Weinstein make shower taking look sexy?

Like the reality of grooming oneself is that it's never really attractive. Like you got to get in the crevices. I don't want to see Harvey Weinstein getting in the little folds between his mean.

I don't think Ashley Judd was saying that this was something that she wanted to do.

No, but he has some weird why would he that I'm not? Yeah, that's what like what is the turn on for? You know, watch how I always start at the top and work my way to the bottom.

Look how I leave the conditioner and her in for two minutes so that my hair becomes soft.

Look how I always use the loofah front to back. If I'm going to pay somebody to watch me do something, taking a shower would be pretty low on that list.

I would actually say that if they offered say no. It's not even like really low on the priority list of what I want somebody to do. I just actively don't want them to do.

But you know, Miramax was a powerhouse. Like, what if you could have know in Pulp Fiction in exchange for pretending that you enjoyed watching?

No, no. I mean if I was in charge.

Of oh, if you were the Harvey.

If I was the Harvey and Ashley Judd said, can I watch you take a shower? I would say, no.

That's right. I would feel like that was a miscalibrated question. I'd be like, who are you? And why do you think that this is appealing to? And who are you?

You don't know who Ashley Judd is?

Yeah. I think since she have a sister and a mom she has a sister and a mom, right?

She does, yes.

Not to get too serious, but it's sad that it takes so long for, you know, to hear, like, the story is like, okay, so and so was sexually harassing people. I'm not, you know, unfortunately, I'm not surprised. But to hear that it was like, 20 years of harassment it's like, what the fuck is wrong with the system that we're just hearing about this now?

Hollywood is a fucked up place, I think.

Have they always been in the movies? Just, like, really good at covering everything up?

One thing I recommend I think I recommended this in a newsletter, patreon newsletter one time. Is it's called? You must remember this. And it's a podcast about old Hollywood. Like forty s. Thirty s. Forty s and fifty s movie stars and the scandals and all the just how Hollywood worked in those days. And it's crazy, the amount of just sexual perversion and harassment and just and drugs. I think Hollywood has been like that forever. It's not like it started in the it's not like it ended after the so when people have that much power and their kind of maybe it's something about their creative energies or something like that.

It's an industry fueled by beauty and youth and old men with the money and it's like grad school.

The weinstein things. It had elements that reminded me of some of the bigger philosophy scandals that it was kind of half pathetic and half abhorrent. It wasn't like the sex scandals with Judy Garland or the glamorous sex scandals from your childhood. I actually don't know if Judy Garland was in one, so I shouldn't say that, but it's not. You must remember this.

The Tin Man from The Wizard of Oz really was, like, fucking with her throughout the whole shoot. You can sort of see in her face every time he talks. Yeah, I guess. Hopefully the good thing is that we're hearing about this stuff. But it really is I may not.

Have a heart, but I have a dick.

It's really hard too. Yeah. No, hopefully this does some good in exposure. But it seems like wherever there's power in old men but you're right. I think the embarrassment is the weird sort of there's a stereotype of the man in power as being really dominant. And what you hear in a lot of these cases is just how vulnerable and just weak these men sort of present themselves in any attempt at getting attention from who they're attracted to. It really is pathetic. Before we get to our opening topic on today's episode, we're going to talk about emotions, what they are, how we can tell what they are, how we divide up the emotional world. In particular, we'll be talking about the work of Lisa Feldman Barrett, a psychologist, cognitive neuroscientist, and her view of emotion, as well as Robert Solomon's view. Yeah.

So Paul Bloom just recently won a big award.

I want a picture of Paul Bloom. So it was a million dollar award. I want a picture of him with his pinky in his so, $1 million.

He's also sporting, like, a beard. I could see Paul Bloom asking one of us to watch him take a shower before too long.

Paul, I did not say know. Sometimes people have a hard time figuring out which one of our fucked up voices is which one. That was Tamer Summers. I was going to merely take the opportunity to say congratulations on that award. I'm very, very proud of you, if that's an emotion I'm allowed to feel. He received the 2017 Klaus Jacobs Award for his research into the origins, nature, and development of children's moral thought. And in Zurich, there will be a mini conference in his honor. And I luckily get to fly out to Zurich and to hang out with Paul Bloom, really, to decide what to do with that million dollars.

My first thought was that he just won a million dollars. They were just writing him a million.

Dollar check, like, do what thou wilt.

Yeah, I mean, like those genius grants.

From the MacArthur Awards.

The MacArthur Awards or the Nobel Prize or whatever. They don't tell you what to do with the money. They just say, Here you go. But it's not that right. It is for pursuing more research, is.

That my understanding is that it is for research. It's a research prize. So probably go through Yale University. Like a grant. It would be like a grant, which does really change it. I would crumble under the pressure of having to figure out how to spend a million dollars for my research. I don't know what I would do if it were like the MacArthur Genius Award. I was starting to tell you earlier, a good friend of mine, Matt Knock, who's a professor at Harvard who studies suicide and self harm,