#69: Inside the Mind of Glenn Beck Is...Walt Disney and Orson Welles?

#69: Inside the Mind of Glenn Beck Is...Walt Disney and Orson Welles?

The Tim Ferriss Show

The goal of this blog and my podcast is to push you outside of your comfort zone and force you to question assumptions. This why I invite divergent thinkers and world-class performers who often disagree. I might interview Tony Robbins (Part 1, Part 2) and then Matt Mullenweg, as I did. Or I might have Sam Harris, PhD on and later invite a seemingly opposite guest like... Glenn Beck. This interview is a wild ride, and it happened — oddly enough -- thanks to a late-night sauna session. I was catching up with an old friend, who is mixed-race, a Brown University grad, and liberal in almost every sense of the word. I casually asked him, “If you could pick one person to be on the podcast, who would it be?" “Glenn Beck,” he answered without a moment’s hesitation. “His story is FASCINATING.
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Optimal, minimal.

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At this altitude I can run flat.

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Out for a half mile before my hands start shaking.

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Can I ask you a personal question now? It is the perfect time.

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What if I did the opposite?

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I'm a cybernetic organism.

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If the spirit moves you hello boys.

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And girls, this is Tim Ferriss, and welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferriss show where I deconstruct and analyze world class performers to find the things they have in common. Most important, the tools, the tricks, the favorite books, the routines that you can use that they use. And the figures that we look at range from billionaire investors like Peter Thiel to actors like Arnold Schwarzenegger, to musicians like Bareta of glitch Mob or Mike Shinoder, Amanda Palmer to chess prodigies like Josh Waitskin. And the point of this podcast is to help you to question assumptions, to find a better way of doing things, whether that is agreeing or disagreeing with these guests. And it's really an exercise in pushing your comfort level and pushing you outside of your comfort zone. And the guest for today is no exception. He's definitely going to help you get excited one way or the other. And his name is Glenn Beck. And there is no secret agenda, no secret political agenda to this show. That's not what this is about. And it is both not a gotcha interview conversation with Glenn, but it is also not a softball interview with Glenn. So we dig into a lot of his personal habits and role models like Walt Disney and Orson Welles, for instance. But I also ask him questions such as how he feels interacting with Peter Thiel, who's openly gay, or how he feels interacting as he has with pen Gillette, who is a very open atheist. And I ask him a lot of questions that many of you submitted via Facebook, and some of them are pretty hardcore. And I think he does a very fascinating job of answering them. So that is that now there's a bit of background because I think Glenn is a world class storyteller. He's also a world class performer, radio personality and entrepreneur. Some of you may not realize. In 2014, for instance, Forbes named him to their annual celebrity 100 Power list, which pegged his earnings at $90 million for that year and placed him ahead of people like Mark Burnett, Jimmy Fallon, Leonardo DiCaprio and Will Smith. He is founder and owner of theBlaze.com, which gets somewhere between 30 and 50 million unique visitors per month, which, needless to say, is massive. And there's no end to the growth in sites. So it's a fascinating story. It's a controversial story. But there's something to be learned here, and I think you will enjoy the conversation. So withhold judgment, reserve your judgment and try to listen with an open mind. Again, this is not a political show. I'm not trying to convert you to anything. But it is a learning show. And there are some gems in here. So without further ado, please meet Glenn Beck. And for the resources, links, show notes and so on. For this episode, you can just go to Forward slash podcast. That's fourhourworkweek.com podcast, where you can also find all the other episodes. Thank you for listening, Glenn, welcome to the show.

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Thank you very much.

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I am thrilled to have you here. We were sitting outside at Aquatic park in San Francisco. It is a gorgeous day.

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Perfect.

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And I was going to say, has anyone ever told you have the perfect voice for radio?

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But not today. Not today.

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I know we have a block of time. I want to get into a lot of different subjects. The first question I really want to ask is what your close friends or colleagues believe you're a world class at.

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I know you always ask that question and the punch in the face question, and I'm stumped by that because I don't consider myself world class at anything. I think that. I think that I'm a guy who just kind of slips in under the radar a bit and does things just differently enough to where it kind of short circuits the system. So maybe short circuiting the system, maybe.

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Okay, this is an interesting place to start. So what are the elements of short circuiting the system that you are gifted.

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At.

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Or have developed a gift for?

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Yeah, I think it's just quite honestly, let me start here. I have a friend who is an economic professor at Columbia, and he came up to me, first time we met, he came up to me and it was a cocktail party. And he said, so tell me, Mr. Beck, where'd you get your education? Nikonics? And I said, I don't have formal education. I'm a self educated man. He said, I knew it. Now. I thought to myself, UsOb.

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Yeah, here we go.

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Yeah, here we go. And I said, did you? And he said, yes, because I can't get my students to think like you. He said, they're all trained to think a certain way. So I think short circuiting the system is a lot easier when you're somebody. Steve Jobs is a great example that just has not been trained to think like everyone else because everyone else expects the system to work this certain way. And then when you walk in and you don't have that formal education, you walk in and you look at it and you're like, this doesn't make any sense. There's an easier way to do this or a better way to do this. And you kind of chart your own path and everybody stands around telling you, don't do it that way. And you do, and it usually works.

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Jobs is a really interesting example because he was able to take disparate areas such as calligraphy, where he, in that case, took a number of classes that he then brought over to the development of apple

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