#407: Sam Zell — Strategies for High-Stakes Investing and Dealmaking

At this altitude, I can run flat out for a half mile before my hands start shaking.

Can I ask you a personal question? Now I just feel like broken time. What if I did the opposite?

I'm a cybernetic organism. Living tissue over metal endoskeleton.

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Hello Nellie. This is Tim Ferriss. I figured I'd mix up the intro welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferriss show where it is my job each episode typically to sit down with world class performers of all different types from all different industries, from all different fields, to tease out the habits, routines, favorite books, influences, and so on, that you can in some fashion emulate or test and apply in your own life this time around. In this episode, we have a slightly different format, which I'm super excited about. I will not be the one doing the deconstructing. Instead, we have my good friend Peter Atia taking my place now. Peter Tia, for those who don't know, is the common ingredient in two of the most popular episodes on my podcast. Of the last, say, hundred episodes specifically, those are episode number 352, Dr. Peter Atia versus Tim Ferriss, and episode number 398, Peter Atia, MD fasting, metformin, athletic performance, and more. If you want to try one of those out after you hear Peter do his thing here, I would suggest going to number 352, where we talk about mental and emotional health and different tools that can apply there. Coming back to this episode, though, in this episode we have Peter interviewing Sam Zell Z-E-L-L-A legendary deal maker and investor. And as of the time of this recording, Sam's net worth stands at around $5.24 billion. As many listeners know, and many probably don't know, Dr. Peter Atea on Twitter and Instagram at Peter Atia Attiamd is a former ultra endurance athlete, so he's done swimming, races of