#269 - Tait Fletcher

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All day. Dude, this bulletproof coffee that you brought here, explain this. Tate Fletcher, OG gangster of the death squad. From day one.

From day one.

Day one. Push up to that thing. All right.

With a crazy beard.

Yeah. For folks who are just listening to this, Tate's rocking a beard that looks like it's glued on. It looks like the fake Rick Ross's beard, like they were talking about.

I love how you differentiate the fake Rick Ross.

Well, you got to, because everybody.

Rick Ross.

Yeah, freeway Rick Ross. If you haven't listened to those episodes, my podcast, please do it just for your own edification, because it's a fascinating scenario. Guy was a big time drug dealer. His name was Freeway Rick Ross. He went to jail. I mean, they had a freeway Rick Ross task force in the LAPD. His drug sales were a part of the Iran contragate. All. Yeah, yeah. His drug sales were what's funding foreign militaries. That's where they were getting the money from the CIA. And this is all part of how Gary Webb exposed this in a book. And Michael Rupert, who was a la police department narcotics officer, exposed it. Yeah. I mean, so this guy, freeway Rick Ross, was a part of this. He was a huge drug dealer making millions and millions of dollars, right? Just crazy, crazy money. Drove around in a know, like, drive around like station wagons and so, like, no flashy, no bling. Just kept it on the DL and just raking in the cash. Meanwhile, the dude couldn't even read, okay? Goes to jail, learns how to read, becomes a lawyer, finds a hole in his fucking. In his three strikes thing, and gets out. So while he's in jail, some dude is calling himself Rick Ross, and he's a big fat guy who used to be a corrections officer. No way a corrections officer is pretending that he was this big time drug dealer, Rick Ross. So now Rick Ross gets out of jail, and he's trying to sue to. But he's, like, going to battle. The record companies are going to battle with him over his own real name.

That's awesome.

It's insane. This is a movie. Tate Fletcher. This is not a real world. This world is not real just because you can touch it and move it around. This motherfucker is fake. There's no way that's possible in 2012. There's no way that should be possible. Some guy could be a corrections officer.

I like it that he's like that. Every one of his raps. Is there a rap that he has that's not about shooting somebody or having a pound of blow?

Yeah, it's all about hustling, but how about the fact that he's got Rick Ross tattooed on his fingers? He's got Rick Ross Tatoo, dude. He's got another man's name tattooed on his fingers. And that other man is out of jail now because he's smart. That other guy's a real bad motherfucker. He's not some fake fat guy who knows how to make shit rhyme. That's like, wow. It's a crazy story, man. It's really weird story.

How long did you spend with him?

We did two podcasts with him, and he came back and we could do 100 more, man. He had some stories. Yeah. And he's still fighting it in court. Very nice guy, man.

He got money?

No, he's barely getting by, but.

I.

Guess he could make money doing interviews or doing seminars or something like that. But I think he's trying to do it more for real benefit, man. He's, like, doing a lot of different speeches for young kids and telling his story and trying to offer inspiration because a dude went to jail. He didn't even know how to read. He was a tennis player. Like, a really badass tennis player. And in learning how to play Vanessa Williams'uncle, he was a really good tennis player, but he couldn't read, so he couldn't go to college. So it's like he would never get a screenplay. I'm sure they must have something going on. We actually talked to him about. We said too short had to play it. Too short looks just like him, I'm telling you.

Really?

He's taller than too short, but he has too short's face. It's kind of crazy. Or maybe Denzel Washington could play him. He could fucking play anybody. Right?

He's badass, man.

Yeah. You did a movie with.

Yeah, yeah. Just got off.

What is it?

It's called two guns. It's him and Mark Wahlberg, and our crew is all navy Seals. And then we split from Wahlberg. He was one of our crew, and then we go to kill them, and the movie's us hunting them, basically.

What do you feel like, if you were a real Navy SeAL and you saw these crazy, like, missing in action type movies and shit where people do ridiculous stuff, what the fuck does it like?

Crazy dude on films is that all those guys, the producers and directors, they're like, we need this to look real. We want it to be authentic until it's the day to shoot it. And then they're like, okay, we're going to flip the car over 16 times, and you're going to push it off, and you'll just push out and roll or something. That's ridiculous. And there's a lot of that that just. None of it matters. It's all a suspension of belief.

Yeah, there's a certain amount of that you do in a movie, though. And I lose level ten. I can never get to level ten in your movie.

You know what, though? Dude is like, you look at american kickbox or something as an MMA fighter, you look at that and you're still like, awesome. And he's dipping his fucking gauze in glass and shit. You're like, yeah, rad, right?

But it's never going to kick. Was that just called Kickboxer? Yeah, just the Van Damme. I think when you get to a certain, you have to suspend disbelief like that. You're never going to hit, like, that godfather level, right? You know when you see, like, the Godfather, you watch that movie and go, God damn, they nailed that motherfucker. The way they choked that dude in a restaurant. The murders looked real. Everything. There was no sensationalizing. There was exactly as much gore as you would see. If you were in the periphery, you felt like you were in the experience. They weren't bullshitting you at all. So by the time when you get out of that movie, you're like, whoa. Same thing is like apocalypse now forever. Yes. Those movies hold up.

Or the Deer Hunter.

Perfect example. Perfect example. What a crazy ass movie that was. And they had to take the deer with one shot. That was their thing.

Well, they're all getting tortured with the.

Russian roulette and all that. Oh, my God.

Me.

The russian roulette scene with Christopher Walken. That is one of the most intense scenes in any movie of any era. Even today. If that movie came out today, it would 100% hold up. Like, maybe a little bit of the music was probably a little corny.

You look at what's out there today that doesn't. Have you seen expendables, too?

No.

It's a nine millimeter shooting you in the head, and your head vaporizes. It's like that kind of kill bill shit. And you're like, why are we doing that right now? How about we don't do that?

See, I'm a hypocrite, though, because I like Avengers type shit. I like superhero type shit. But I know it's bullshit. It's like, I like that, too, but I don't like this Missy washy, like, halfway shit where you're pretending it's a real movie, but some nonsense happens. How come this dude could beat everybody up so easy? Like, what's going on, guys? You're making these guys look like skilled fighters, and this guy's just taking them.

Did you see it?

I was going to see it, but that whole Colorado shooting thing. Kind of scared. No, fuck. Thought, well, definitely if I was there, I'd be scared. But I don't think I could watch it without thinking what those people were thinking.

I didn't think of those people at all.

I'm going to get it on Blu ray and wear my shoes in bed.

Just in case you got to run. Yeah. You felt the same way, right?

I'd barely go to the movies, so I don't know.

It had to hurt the box office of that movie. It had to. That's a terrible thing to think of. Why would you think of that is all they would think of. But it also highlighted how you could have 300 million people living together. But it's so rare that something like this pops off. To me, it was a disgusting, horrible, sad event. But when I really analyzed the facts, I was like, man, we get along way better than people give us credit for.

It's true. Everybody's armed, everybody's hammered drunk or what. You know what I mean? It's like there's all that shit going on. There's all these variables, and people are vying for the same job. People aren't doing very well, and still, people aren't getting axed every day. It's not like it was back in the 90s in LA, where there's shootings on the freeway and shit.

Yeah, I think even back in the night. We have more access to the news now from everywhere. Anything that's bad from anywhere, we get real quick. So we get a real distorted perception of what interacting with human beings is like. Because the model that we're dealing with is 300 million people, which is just crazy that you would take individual episodes out of that and try to apply it to what the world is actually like, because it's just too many. The numbers are just too. People don't really know what the fuck. 300 million is, but you couldn't see it. 300 million is if you got everybody in front of you, just in this country that lived there would literally be. You could stand on top of, like, a mountain and you would see nothing but people till the horizon, right? That's an insane amount of people. And they're making some shit choices, and they're coming over to your house and they're fucking putting some drugs on aluminum foil and lighting it up in front of you. And you're like, what the fuck are you doing?

Disrespectful.

Lighting up fucking crystal meth in front.

Of you with nice tits, even with disrespectful.

Well, it's just like, whoa, what kind of craziness are you running here?

What do you think about all that? We don't have as much outward violence like that. But you look at right now what's happening, and it seems like it started like, it seems like prison is a template for shit. It's like we're going to make sure blacks, Mexicans,