#197 - Ari Shaffir

Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. That was one of the greatest moments.

That's my favorite. I wait for that. I realized as this music started up, I'm like, oh, I want to wait for that.

Diaz, that was the coolest shit ever. When he did that in the middle of the fucking octagon, when he said that, I was like, wow, we just got the best commercial of all time. Nick Diaz throws his arms up in.

The air, says, joe Rogan, somebody got mad at me on Twitter recently for going against the suspension. We're talking ill of it.

Really?

Yeah.

Well, if folks don't know, Nick Diaz got suspended or he's in the process of a hearing right now about his use of marijuana. He only tested positive for the metabolites in his system. And I guess what his lawyer is arguing is that metabolites aren't illegal and that the marijuana, it is illegal. And you're not allowed to have marijuana in your system, but you don't even have a law for metabolites.

Oh, I thought it was, like, metabolites. The only remnants, and the last time he was smoking when he got those remnants was when he was legally smoking with the state of California.

The metabolite that actually was in his system is an inert metabolite. The metabolite that he tested positive for is not psychoactive. So the only thing that he tested positive for was a cannabinoid. I don't know how many cannabinoids. I shouldn't talk about this until I talk. Tod McCormick.

They just let him smoke pot, though. It's like, it's not a performance enhancing drug, and it doesn't hurt the person.

I get in this argument with people. I get in this argument with people, and a lot of people have been angry at me about this because I said that I think marijuana is a performance enhancing drug, and it is if you're good. It is if you're good with pot. And it is if you're good with the martial arts, it is enhancing. It's not necessarily enhancing. Like, you could give it to one guy and his emotions and his nerves and everything, just because the fact that he's about to enter into a cage fight, it might overwhelm him and he might just lose his shit. But you could give it to, like, I guarantee you could give some weed to BJ Penn and he'd go out and fuck people up. BJ Penn, I don't think he would have any problem with it. He's an OG. You know what I mean? He's a veteran.

So you think he'd be better?

I think the jujitsu, those guys, like. Those guys? Yeah, those guys never roll sober. You got to understand, there's a lot of these guys, like, high level guys.

Try to get back in the same place.

I don't want to name any names because some people don't like people talking about it. So I'm going to tell you. But high level jujitsu guys that you've heard of in videos, and everybody mimics them with their own game. A lot of those guys smoke weed a lot. Like, it's a big percentage. And they smoke weed and train and. Look, I always go back to Eddie Bravo because he's my best friend, but he's also one of the best jiu jitsu instructors in the world, and I've never seen Eddie do jiu jitsu when he wasn't high.

Sometimes he gets so high, barely teaching.

He's like. But he'll tell you. He'll tell you that it enhances him. He'll tell you that it enhances the sensitivity. It puts you in the flow better. It lets you.

Okay. But so does, let's just say vitamin B or whatever else.

Oh, no. They're very different, though. Vitamin B is very good. As far as your body's ability to perform, yes, but not as far as being able to change your state. The thing about marijuana is it's so euphoric and it's so mind expanding. And what it does when you have the fear, and this is, by the way, is not for everybody, obviously, everybody's brain works in different ways, but with my personal experience, I get this wave of understanding when I get high, and that prepares me for things, man. That's one of the reasons why I like to get high before I do big, giant shows. Yeah.

It slows everything down for me. I play poker tournaments high.

Yeah. Pool is fantastic. High. I play a ball better when I'm high.

Really?

Yeah.

That's another thing you'll say at a tournament. You'll see all the poker pros running to their car as it breaks.

Yeah. Is an enhancer. It is an enhancer. It just is.

Do you think it affects your judgment, though, to do stuff like in jiu jitsu? You watch a movie stoned, and you might think it's awesome the next day you think it sucks. If you're doing jiu jitsu with somebody or MMA, maybe you would do something you normally wouldn't do because you're thinking something different.

Well, you could, but that could lead. See, what you're saying is. Hold on a second. But what you're saying is that you would make a big mistake.

I think not big mistake. You just do something that you normally wouldn't do, right.

Well, that would be a positive, though, a lot of the times. As long as you're good, again, as long as you're good. Because if you're a good jiu jitsu player, if you're a good grappler, you have a fundamental understanding of where you're supposed to put yourself, where you're in danger, where you're not in danger, what can be done? All these moves tie into each other. When you learn how to do butterfly hooks, butterfly hooks. You learn how to manipulate people's bodies that all of a sudden becomes a way to move people around, just like with your hands. And that adds to all these other techniques that you do. So there's literally a limitless number of moves and positions. I mean, there's so many different variations, so many different counters to those variations. If you, long as you have a deep understanding of positions and as long as you have a deep understanding of what's dangerous and what's not, you're not going to usually put yourself in a bad spot. Occasionally, if you're training with friends, you'll say, can I do? Let me just try to do this because you won't worry, like, if you get mounted or something like that, you're not, like, in a competition where it's for your life. Whereas if you were in a fight, you wouldn't try this position. Yeah, but I think that's where a lot of, like, new, because it helps.

You, like, with stand up, where it helps you riff a little more, like, let me try this. But that can also lead to a bad place where you're, like, nowhere.

Fuck up, man. All the time. We both do it all the time. I mean, I did it this past weekend a couple of times.

It's like two out of three fuck ups. It's like, plenty of, like.

But when you're doing new shit, when you're doing new shit, especially, like, at the ice house, I did a lot of new shit this weekend, and I'm preparing for this special in Atlanta, which, by the way, if you go to my Twitter feed or go to Joerogan Net, there's a link for it. We're at the Tabernacle on 420, and I'm going to be filming my special.

Do you already sell it? One show?

Yeah, the first show is gone and then the second one's selling fast. So if you want to get in, I would love to have you guys come down. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be crazy. Psychedelic.

Last time I'm psyched to do in.

Atlanta too, because I haven't been Atlanta in a long time.

What is a tabernacle.

Brian? That's in the video.

What is the.

Pterodactyl already?

Is that like a nut? Because everyone acts like everyone knows what one of those is. I've never heard of one.

It's just a name.

Tabernacle.

Tabernacle.

Well, that's always like Tabernacle choir.

Yeah, it's a nice name for something. I don't know.

I don't know. Look it up. What is Tabernacle?

I have no idea. I feel like stupid for not knowing what it is.

You told me it was the Tabernacle buffet. I would say, wow, it must be an excellent buffet.

I'm sure it's like buffet is regal as fuck.

It's like Rolls Royce or something. It's like some name.

Tabernacle. Tabernacle.

Wikipedia residence or dwelling place. Wow, the Tabernacle, it's Hebrew, bro.

That's why I don't.

It's English.

It's your people, man. How the. Yeah, well, that's what I mean. The tabernacle is a residence or a dwelling place according to the Hebrew Torah, old Testament.

See, it just sounds annoying.

Well, I don't know how that got to Atlanta. Is there a lot of Jews in Atlanta?

No.

Christians started using it. Is that what it is?

Yeah, I guess so. Maybe that was the english translation for a hut something.

That's interesting. So it's just a house? It just like a super fancy way to say house.

Tabernacle. Yeah, you're right. I've never known what that word meant.

So that's where we're at Tabernacle. And it's on 420, which is silly. We had to.

Oh, it's perfect.

It's so silly. We had to do it.

When you told me you were thinking about it, I was like, no, dude, just probably just do that.

No, it cost us extra money to do it this way because everybody else wanted to do it the next month. But I was like, you know what? It's 420. It's just so silly. Let's just get in there. Just get in. Film it on 420. It's just so perfectly goofy. It is. I love how Doug Benson does his 420 shows 420 in the afternoon. Because look yes. It's preposterous. It's silly, it's ridiculous.

But we all agree on.

He's cut out everybody but his hardcore.

Fans showing up at 420 in the afternoon on a Sunday.

There are casual Doug Benson fans showing.

Do you guys ever have a screen name that had 420 in it?

No.

How dare you.

You did.

Did you have.

Clearly you did.

Do you ever have one that had 69 in it?

Probably. I definitely had red band 420 back in 2012, bro.

Yeah, no, I never did.

AOL or something.

Wait, let me ask you a question, though. Who cares?

No, ask.

Why should selling if it just enhances yourself, why should certain those things.

Okay, back to the weed being an enhancer. Well, it's all in. What does it look, the reality is everything you take is a performance enhancer. From vitamins to minerals to a good diet.

Isn't it just what's harmful for your body? That's what they try to outlaw.

No, what they're trying to outlaw is what they're trying to do is they're trying to stop low level physical engineering and that's what steroids are. That's low level. It's inevitable that they're going to come out with nanobots. It's inevitable they're going to have the ability to literally change your genome. It's inevitable. It's coming. It's going to happen.

The doctor and steepsace nine, he was.

All genome dead, right?

He could have Bullseye's every day.

It might not be in our lifetime. I mean, it might be in another lifetime after us. But sometime if you look, as long as we don't blow ourselves up or get hit.

Yeah, we'll make everything better. Why wouldn't we?

We're going to make things better. There's no way. There's not a technological wall they're going to hit. These fucking guys are coming up with incredible discoveries. And these incredible discoveries actually make those other incredible discoveries