#1899 - Yannis Pappas
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What the fuck's happening?
Not much. Just been in Austin. Did the Vulcan this weekend. It was great.
That's a great room.
Great room, great crowds. Been having fun. Austin had barbecue about 15 times already. Every time I come here, I don't have solid shits. It's a tough town to have solid shit, and it's hard to find fiber.
Do you have an issue after you eat there? When you say solid shit, what do you mean? What do you mean by solid shit?
Yeah, I mean, there's just no fiber in the meal. It's just meat. Jalapenos, cheddar sauce.
A little fiber in those.
A little tiny bit. Not enough coleslaw. Little coleslaw.
Get the coleslaw in there to lube up the pipes.
Yeah, I got some peach cobbler. There is a layer of grease around it, but I don't know.
Yeah, the body shape is consistent amongst people that enjoy barbecue. It is a hearty body shape. It's very parrish, very farmer fucking bear. Huggish. Lost me. Oh, sorry. Yeah. But it's the fucking best barbecue on earth. You know, it all came from german immigrants.
I didn't know that. I thought it was like black people food.
Adam Curry explained the whole thing to me. Germans came over here from Germany and they smoked their meat over there. It's a common way they prepare meat. So, like smoked sausages and stuff like that. Like those jalapeno cheddar sausages they have at Terry blacks that originally started out german food. Yeah, they're really good at smoking. Like when you go to Montreal and they have smoked meat like the jews. That's the way they handle their brisket and their corned beef and stuff like that. And then they do it differently over here. But it all comes from Germany.
That is wild. They do like their meat over went there. Their cuisine is atrocious.
Is it german food?
I went to, like, a four star german restaurant in Munich, and it was ballpark food. It was like Frank applesauce, sauerkraut, and mustard.
When you go to a place like Italy, the food is so good, it's amazing. They get them to go to like. I think that's my theory, my conspiracy theory about why english food was so bland. Well, England dominated the fucking world forever with that bullshit ass food.
And the Germans, too. Yeah, they don't nobody fucking great food.
Thailand's not taking over anybody, right.
Yeah. They don't know how to enjoy life, so they're motivated.
Exactly. Like, how did they talk the Italians into doing it?
They barely did. I mean, they weren't that good. No offense. They weren't got great fighters. I mean, they invaded Greece, World War II. We beat the shit out of them.
Yeah, listen, my people are not designed for that.
No.
They're not designed to go to war. But they were with the roman army, which is wild.
That is true.
Back then when syphilis was running rampant, everybody was dying. When they were twelve. Yeah, you could get people to fight easier.
What was that before Marco Polo? Like maybe that was before Marco Polo brought the noodle over. Like maybe that was pre noodle.
Ruined everything. They figured out pasta.
Yeah. Once they got the pasta, they were like, dude, what the fuck is too good?
It's interesting, the food that we consider italian food. We think of it as it's east coast immigrant italian food. Yeah, I learned that from Bourdain. He explained all that shit to me. It's like we think of our food over here is like what immigrants would eat. And they would make everything very filling and a lot of pasta and a lot of breading in the meatballs and lasagna and all that stuff. You don't really find that that much in Italy.
Yeah, no, you can't find a good chicken parm or lasagna. Yeah, they're always spicy.
Rigatoni. That's fucking american.
Yeah. You get it in Italy, they give you like four.
Yeah.
And it's like very light and they eat such small portions. And when you're american, you're like, where is the lumberjack special?
Well, I guess that's probably real similar to a lot of chinese food over here. Right. How authentic is. There's a lot of americanized chinese food with a heavy monosodium glutamate.
Yeah.
Which, by the way, is fucking delicious.
Yeah.
There's a reason why they use.
Think they. I don't think they have general so's chicken over there.
Probably don't.
No. And I don't even think Indians have chicken tika masala. Just they figured out something like white Americans like. And they went with, oh, sort of.
Like when you get chilean sea bass. That's not a sea bass.
Right?
That's a cod.
Yeah. And if you get chicken in China, I think it's the.
You'll hear, you'll sue if you see.
A chicken foot over there, they're like, nice. That's what I was hoping for.
Right?
Can I get some rat fritters on the side?
That's interesting about some cultures. They take food that we would just chuck and they make it delicious. Like Mexicans with menudo, when you get all the. What is it called? It's intestines. But what is the word for it? Tripe. Yes, tripe. So it's like cow stomach and stuff like that. And it's all boiled up in this pot with this heavy, thick, spicy red sauce. You ever have manudo, like real menudo from a real legit mexican spot?
I haven't, no.
Oh, my God. There were some spots in LA where you get menudo, and there's this one, what's it called? The big burrito that was in. They have, like, weekend menudo at some of these spots. They only cook it up on Saturday and Sunday when everyone's hungover. It's fucking insane.
Well, the Greeks have the same thing. It's a delicacy, and I love it, and I was raised on it. It's called cocoretzi, which is the guts of the lamb wrapped in the intestines, and it's delicious. And then mayariza, the soup, they put the guts in the soup and it's delicious.
Isn't that what chitlins is?
Kind of, yeah, I think it's same thing.
How do you spell it differently? Right. It's spelled like chitterlings, I think.
And I think they do the pig.
It's the pig intestines. Is that what it is?
Yeah, we do the lamb, dude. Greeks are the biggest predator of lambs. It's not like the wolves, it's Greeks.
Lamb's very good for you.
It's great.
It's very easy to digest. Apparently, Jordan Peterson is on that carnivore diet thing. His wife is, but she only eats lamb, and she's found, like, that's her sweet spot, is just only eating lamb. It's very nutritious.
Yeah, it's sweet meat.
It's very good. Yeah, it's very good. But it's also a baby lamb. Baby sheep, rather. That's what a lamb is.
Yeah. What can you do?
It's like we have a name for it. We're just eating babies. Yeah, but that's what veal is, too. Like, if you have a veal parmesan, you're eating a baby cow. Yeah, but the thing is, is that worse or better than killing it when it's older and eating?
I was about to think that. Yeah, is it better, like, to not let it have a good life? So it doesn't. I think it's fine.
The lamb thing is different than the veal thing, though, because the veal thing is actually a process where they give a baby cow anemia the way they used to do it. It's really horrific. They used to tie them up and they would feed them, like, some of them were milk fed. They would call it milk fed veal, but I don't know if that's how they did it. I don't know what they fed them, but whatever they fed them, they kept them in the dark. They kept them motionless so that they have no muscle. It's a very small amount of meat that's on it in comparison to a cow, obviously, but that meat is just soft as butter, which is kind of creepy. It's creepy, but not even kind of.
But are we anthropomorphizing it, though? Like, does the lamb know? Does the animal know?
We know.
Yeah, we know. We know. Yeah.
That's why to me, it's always been weird if people freak out if you eat bears. If you tell people that you eat bear, they're like, what the fuck is wrong with you? If there's a thing out there that you should be eating, it's bears.
But trigonosis.
Yeah, but you just. Same with pork. You just cook it. Yeah, you just have to make sure you have a meat thermometer.
Yeah, it's got to be perfect. Right. With bear, though, or else you got to know what you're doing.
Yeah, you can get it. And apparently, according to my friend Steve Ranella, who's an expert in this, because he actually has trichonosis, he said that 90% of all the cases in trichonosis in this country come from people eating black bear.
How many people are eating black bear?
A lot. You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. Particularly in Alaska. They eat it a lot up there. They eat it a lot in places where it's traditional to hunt there, like Montana, even in New Jersey. New Jersey finally is reinstituting the bear hunt because the governor, one of the things he ran on was stopping the bear hunt. But then human bear encounters rose by over 200%. There was a lot of human bear encounters with aggressive bears. And so they said, oh, you really do need to manage these populations because they just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. And it only takes a couple of years for a bear to get big enough to fuck you up. It's not like a person it's quick. And so then you have all these four or five year old giant fucking bears running around eating people's dogs, tearing up your neighborhood. They're like real predators. They don't know the rules.
They have them up by me and supposedly, are they dangerous? Because people are like, they're not dangerous.
Of course they're dangerous.
They always run away.
Most of the time they run away.
Yeah.
But they're 100% capable of killing you.
Yeah.
That's dangerous.
Yeah.
It's not a chicken. It's not a wild chicken. Run and lose.
Yeah.
Did you ever see that video of the two duking it out in far Rockaway, New Jersey?
No.
Oh, my God, dude. So far rockaway, it's like a very nice neighborhood, very suburban neighborhood. And there's these bears that look like they're easy, 300 plus pounds, and they're going to war.
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