#1215 - Ben O'Brien

#1215 - Ben O'Brien

The Joe Rogan Experience

Ben O’Brien is a writer, editor, host of The Hunting Collective podcast, a member of the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers Board of Directors and MeatEater’s Editorial Director. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Jamie. Three, two, one. Was. Was this beverage concocted by you? The first one?

SpeakerB
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Yes. You. You created rye brain, if you ask me.

SpeakerA
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Yes. If you ask Dudley, what does he say?

SpeakerB
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He would say, maybe he was there.

SpeakerA
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Maybe he was there.

SpeakerB
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But he might have been there.

SpeakerA
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He was definitely there.

SpeakerB
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Yeah.

SpeakerA
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But whose ideals?

SpeakerB
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It's hard to say with these. Cheers. Cheers. Good to see you. You look good.

SpeakerA
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You look good, too. I look even better with this shirt.

SpeakerB
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Right? Look at that shirt.

SpeakerA
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This is the new Ben O'Brien special.

SpeakerB
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Get that shirt.

SpeakerA
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Can you get this from your website?

SpeakerB
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You go to the meadeater.com, you go to the store and it's there.

SpeakerA
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Yeah. So what know, I had Steve on, Steve Ranella, our good friend, and we were talking about what they're doing with what meat eater is doing. This is very strange thing, where this giant multimedia corporation has stepped in, throwing a ton of money at meat eater and all these different companies that are involved in the outdoors, all these outdoor activities.

SpeakerB
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That is true.

SpeakerA
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And they're putting it all together into one super network.

SpeakerB
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Juggernaut.

SpeakerA
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Juggernaut of outdoor activities. True.

SpeakerB
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It's true.

SpeakerA
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Yeah.

SpeakerB
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It is something I've never been a part of before. Something like I've never seen before in the hunting industry.

SpeakerA
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Has it ever existed before?

SpeakerB
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I don't think so. No, I don't think so. Can't be campy.

SpeakerA
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So we would have known.

SpeakerB
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Yeah. But what better to try than something that's never been done?

SpeakerA
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Well, you had been doing your podcast for what, like a year now? How long you been doing?

SpeakerB
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About ten months.

SpeakerA
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About ten months.

SpeakerB
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About ten months.

SpeakerA
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And we were just saying that I tried to get you to do one five years ago.

SpeakerB
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Five years ago.

SpeakerA
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Yeah. Ben and I met on a moose hunt in British Columbia.

SpeakerB
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And I would say that it was like friendship at first.

SpeakerA
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Yeah, we had a great fucking time.

SpeakerB
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We had a great time. Shout out to Mike Hockridge. Yeah, Mike. BC. Love you, budy.

SpeakerA
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And Sam Sohalt was with us as.

SpeakerB
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Like, I would always describe that as, like, the most fun that I've ever had on a hunt. It was good, maybe ever. I don't know. We've done a lot of stuff.

SpeakerA
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We were laughing a lot. That's why it was, like, a lot of fun. And a lot of.

SpeakerB
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It wasn't a lot of hardship. We didn't sleep in tents.

SpeakerA
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No, we slept at Mike's house, which is great. And then it was a lot of hiking and stuff and wasn't successful until the very last couple of days.

SpeakerB
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And you shot a moose and the celebration was fantastic.

SpeakerA
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We had a good time.

SpeakerB
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We had a great time.

SpeakerA
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We got super hammered the last night.

SpeakerB
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Remember last night? What were you drinking? Like some kind of spiced rum or some kind.

SpeakerA
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I don't know.

SpeakerB
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It got real.

SpeakerA
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When you're drunk and you're drunk in the middle of nowhere and there's wolves everywhere, it's a different kind of drunk.

SpeakerB
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But we remember, we remember that we went and we shot your bull, right? But then we took the heart and the liver and we started drinking heavily, and you were up there just cooking liver and onions, cooking up a giant moose heart. So we had, like, the fuel of organs of an animal you just killed and then some kind of killed kind of, like, trash bag canadian rum. That was terrible. Yeah, and that's where we partied, dude.

SpeakerA
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But it worked.

SpeakerB
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It worked a real good.

SpeakerA
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I don't know what's good rum or bad rum at all to me. I kind of get good whiskey now. I understand whiskey, sort of.

SpeakerB
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But being irish, it's just like, it's.

SpeakerA
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All just goes in, gets in there.

SpeakerB
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And then it just does what it does when it's in there.

SpeakerA
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Yeah, once the party's begun. Like, here's what I don't get, tequila, people. Oh, this is good tequila. Every tequila I ever drink, I go like this.

SpeakerB
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What about that George Clooney tequila? What is that?

SpeakerA
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It's got his own tequila.

SpeakerB
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Yeah, doesn't he? Is it tequila? Jamie? Jamie, you'll know.

SpeakerA
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Listen, Avion, I'll tell you what sounds.

SpeakerB
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Like a fancy water.

SpeakerA
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George Clooney tequila can suck a fat dick, because Ron White's got his own tequila. Numero Juan sarcastic. Just that's what he calls it. Numero wand.

SpeakerB
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Numero wand tequila.

SpeakerA
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I think that's what it's called, right? Number one? Or is it number one? It's number one. Number one.

SpeakerB
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But, like, if George Clooney wasn't good enough at everything else and all handsome and wonderful, he made a tequila company and did it right. If you listen to the origin story of it, they did it right.

SpeakerA
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Well, fuck his tequila company. There's number one Ron white. It's good shit, too. Ron's is good shit. But I think George Clooney's got enough money, so fuck him.

SpeakerB
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But I think he sold it for millions and billions of dollars.

SpeakerA
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Yeah, see, what happened is he got married and he realized, listen, I better have some money on the side in case this shit hits the rocks.

SpeakerB
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What do I like to do when I'm a little bit bored and not feeling it tequila.

SpeakerA
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Yeah. Every man who has ever heard an awful divorce story, no matter how good it's going, every awful divorce started with I do. They all started with I do. They all started with. And good intentions. You're amazing. And good intentions started with good times, man.

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I will say again, I won't say the name of the person because that would just be mean. Got him out. There was a fella that I knew in my younger years that got married and I was in the wedding party.

SpeakerA
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She got there.

SpeakerB
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Doom. What? She got there.

SpeakerA
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That's weed.

SpeakerB
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It's very dangerous. It's dangerous for you. Yeah, it is.

SpeakerA
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You're living Montana. You can't handle this?

SpeakerB
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No, no. It's not legal there.

SpeakerA
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They made it illegal. Medical. They made medical legal and then they voted it out.

SpeakerB
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Well.

SpeakerA
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Fucking savages.

SpeakerB
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California.

SpeakerA
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They made medical legal and then they had dispensaries and then they voted the dispensaries out. When I was in Bozeman, last time I was there, they were shutting down the doors of the dispensaries.

SpeakerB
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You're living in the golden land here.

SpeakerA
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Yeah, but you know what? I hesitate to say this, but it's.

SpeakerB
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Probably for the best.

SpeakerA
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Just to keep people like me.

SpeakerB
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We're in a safe space. It's just me and you. We're in the trust tree. We're in the nest.

SpeakerA
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Bozeman is so special. It's such a cool little town. We shouldn't be talking about it. I shouldn't be telling people. That's not how great it is.

SpeakerB
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It's a terrible place. Bears will eat you alive in the streets. They're in the streets.

SpeakerA
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But the good thing is the dumb people get eaten by bears.

SpeakerB
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That's true.

SpeakerA
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People will turn up missing. Like some asshole steals lawn mowers. He'll just turn up missing.

SpeakerB
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He'll be out there like a bear forest.

SpeakerA
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Yeah. They get cocky. And people that just make it to live to be 100 in LA, they get eaten when they're like 35. In Bozeman. That's Bozeman.

SpeakerB
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It's beautiful.

SpeakerA
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That's beautiful place.

SpeakerB
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Yeah, but that's in the summer.

SpeakerA
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I don't give a fuck. I was there in the winter.

SpeakerB
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It's like.

SpeakerA
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It's like that, but white.

SpeakerB
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Yeah. You ever seen the show Game of Thrones? In the winter, it's like white walkers, right? There's a large ice wall.

SpeakerA
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When did you just.

SpeakerB
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My family just moved there. We just moved into our brand new home about three weeks ago there, Mr. Rogan.

SpeakerA
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But you were there before.

SpeakerB
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Were you renting yeah, I was renting, living out of a. I lived out of a storage unit for a time.

SpeakerA
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Oh, I'd heard about.

SpeakerB
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Remember there was a rumor.

SpeakerA
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Yeah, wild Ben O'Brien. Wild Ben O'Brien lives in storage unit. Caught in a storage unit. I did.

SpeakerB
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It was a nice storage unit. Shout out to airport north storage. So did you sleep in there?

SpeakerA
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Well, did you get a gym membership or something?

SpeakerB
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Listen, airport north storage. It's time for me to tell the truth.

SpeakerA
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Oh, my God. I can't believe you're coming clean with it.

SpeakerB
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I'm coming clean. I did sleep in there some nights. I slept in a storage unit because.

SpeakerA
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Are there laws against that?

SpeakerB
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It's probably like in the contract when you sign not to do that. Really? I did it anyway.

SpeakerA
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What do you think will happen to you?

SpeakerB
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They would probably be like, get out of the storage unit and get a hotel. You fucking lose, weirdo. You fucking loser. But I just did that as a sacrifice for my family. We're building a house. I needed to be where my job was.

SpeakerA
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Plus, you camp out there.

SpeakerB
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Yeah, you camp out there. It's beautiful, man. It's beautiful. And Bozeman is so popular that time of year that it's hard to.

SpeakerA
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Oh, that's right. Yeah.

SpeakerB
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It's hard to find a place to stay for a short period of time.

SpeakerA
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Airbnbs and all that stuff, that ain't really going down. Amazing. Airbnb. They just figured out a way to rent houses out and make money when no one's there. I'm good. How did nobody ever figure that out before? It's kind of crazy.

SpeakerB
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There's a lot of these technology companies. Why weren't we doing that before? Uber is a great one.

SpeakerA
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Dude. I was coming home the other night and there was five lyfts behind. You know, Lyft is different because they have that weird thing on the dash. That little light on the dash?

SpeakerB
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Yes.

SpeakerA
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And it was like I was being chased by these purple robots. I was like, what the fuck is this? This is strange. I was going to ask if you heard the storage. The big storage unit story from the other day as you guys were just talking about that?

SpeakerB
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No, this big storage unit story.

SpeakerA
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Yeah, you remember, like, just the show that was on the storage wars, whatever. Oh, yeah. The guy that was responsible for selling them to people sold one to a guy for $500. And inside was a safe that had $7.5 million in cash in it. Look at that guy.

SpeakerB
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Was this on the show?

SpeakerA
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No, it wasn't on the show. It just happened recently. So the guy that bought it, what? Actually was contacted by lawyers from the people who owned it, and he made a deal with them. What's the deal?

SpeakerB
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What's the deal?

SpeakerA
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Like a million or something like that.

SpeakerB
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Gave the rest back. Joe, do you want to go into a business where storage wars. Yeah.

SpeakerA
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Look at that guy's face. Look at his face.

SpeakerB
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What are the chances?

SpeakerA
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What the fuck? His wife's saying I sold.

SpeakerB
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That fucking lady is happy.

SpeakerA
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Imagine how dumb you have to feel. You have a whole show about people finding things in storage units. You sell a storage unit and it's got $7 million in it. Seven and a half.

SpeakerB
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Seven and a half million dollars.

SpeakerA
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Still, though, the dude gets to keep a million. How does that work, though? Isn't it his storage unit? How about he tells that guy to fuck off, start to go to work. Someone lost $7 million. Well, first of all, come after you. How dirty is that money?

SpeakerB
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Exactly?

SpeakerA
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That money must be.

SpeakerB
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Was it just the safe? Only in the storage unit. Oh, that's got to be something bad.

SpeakerA
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You're going to get that handsome dude that was in the beginning of Ozarks. That handsome mexican dude, just a straight up murderer. He's going to come visit you.

SpeakerB
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Hello, man.

SpeakerA
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Yeah. That guy was my favorite. I was so sad when they. Spoiler alert. So sad when they killed him.

SpeakerB
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Like the dude from Breaking Bad that comes around.

SpeakerA
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Yeah.

SpeakerB
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Well, he twins.

SpeakerA
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But did see Ozark. You ever see Ozark?

SpeakerB
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I watched, like, the first couple episodes.

SpeakerA
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And I fucked it up for you.

SpeakerB
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Yeah.

SpeakerA
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Because it was a pivotal moment that.

SpeakerB
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I just gave many. There's so many shows, though.

SpeakerA
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There are so many shows. But that's a damn good one.

SpeakerB
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Is it good?

SpeakerA
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That is a damn good show.

SpeakerB
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What's the guy. That's the guy who stars in that.

SpeakerA
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Jason Bateman.

SpeakerB
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Bateman.

SpeakerA
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He's excellent. And the woman.

SpeakerB
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Laura.

SpeakerA
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Lenny. Lenny. She's amazing. The family's amazing. The kids, amazing. It's a fucking show, man. It's a show.

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